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Delta Airlines Passenger Arrested After Trying to Leave Plane 30,000 Feet Up

LAS VEGAS (CBS Las Vegas) — One man was arrested after attempting to change his travel plans midflight — by leaving the plane through an emergency exit.

Richard Joel Garber, 60, of Atlanta, Ga., was seated on board Delta Airlines Flight 1702 on Oct. 23 when he tried to open one of the cabin doors after the plane had reached cruising altitude, which for commercial flights can be anywhere above 30,000 feet.

“Mr. Garber attempted to open the emergency exit door over the wing while the aircraft was in flight,” FBI Special Agent Patrick Turner told CBS Las Vegas. “(He) was detained by fellow passengers and the aircraft returned to Las Vegas … without further incident.”

Lorie Dankers, public affairs officer for the Transportation Security Administration in Las Vegas, told CBS Las Vegas that around 1:50 p.m., they were alerted about the disruptive passenger and the pilot’s decision to return the plane to Las Vegas for Garber’s removal.

“The flight continued on to Atlanta (after he was arrested), and landed there safely at 7:05 p.m. ET,” she added.

Garber will face charges of committing a crime aboard an aircraft — specifically, interfering with a flight crew.

According to Turner, Garber was seen in front of the U.S. Federal Magistrate on Oct. 24.

Turner added, “(He) was released on his own recognizance with a condition that he does not travel by air pending a resolution to his case.”

No one was able to comment as to Garber’s motives in trying to exit the plane.

Comments

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  1. Gunny G says:

    He would have gotten a MAJOR beatdown!

    The Anti Liberal Zone on blogspot

    1. zombierocket says:

      My question is, why didn’t he get a major beating?

      1. Count Yob says:

        Probably because it didn’t take a major beating to detain him.

  2. doing_your_job says:

    It’s iIMPOSSIBLE to open a cabin door in flight on an airliner. How about putting that in the story next time??

    1. Johnny Briggs says:

      Thank you for this comment. It saved me a lengthy internet search. I didn’t think it was possible. How could it be? It would be a terrorists best friend if it was possible.

      1. zzzzz says:

        nuh-uh they do it in the movies all the time

    2. Dan says:

      It is humanly impossible when the plane is at altitude. The doors over the wings are plug doors, meaning the door must be brought into the cabin to open. The pressure difference means no person could open the door.

      1. Billy B. says:

        @Dan: Not all window exit doors have to be brought into the cabin. Depends on aircraft. Many current Boeing models have exit doors that flip outward and swing up. Either way, the doors cannot be opened once the aircraft is pressurized.

    3. Jim says:

      Yep– they are connected to squat switches (happened after the D.B. Cooper heists in 727’s).

      1. zombierocket says:

        How does that work then for a belly landing?

    4. john says:

      It may be impossible to open the door at 30,000 feet, but are the other passengers going to sit calmly in their seats and watch him fiddle with the door?

      The man should be charged with attempted murder for doing such a stupid stunt.

      1. slobo says:

        It is impossible to open those doors at 30 thousand feet…or any feet…once the plane has departed.

      2. jdmeaux says:

        No one has said if this guy was delusional, drunk, or mentally ill. He may have been confused or just figgiting with the door handle.

      3. bumpkin says:

        I vote suicidal… Bet he’s disappointed! -but who cares, huh. That would surely be annoying to deal with that on flight!

      4. Wayne says:

        Another one for the no fly list!

    5. SirGareth says:

      The exits on an aircraft push out against the pressure bulkhead. Commercial Aircraft pressurize to 8,000 feet or about 10.4 pounds per square inch.

      At 30,000 feet the air pressure is 4.0 Pounds per square inch. The difference
      between the figures is 6.4 pounds per square in pushing the door CLOSED

      Assuming the door is about 7 feet x 3 feet that’s about 21 square feet times 144 square inches per foot or a total of about 3024 square inches with 6.4 pounds on each of them holding the door closed.

      3024 square inches at 6.4 pounds per square inches means 19354 pounds (9.7 tons) holding the door shut. Its going to require about 50 Olympic weight lifters to do the job provided the mechanical interlocks allowed the door to be opened.

      1. Woota Schindler says:

        Yes, the idiots who report these non-events never even brush your excellent explanation. A team of Clydesdales couldn’t open a door inflight.

      2. Bill says:

        EPIC reply! Mathematics FTW. Nicely done sir.

      3. Big julie says:

        You have it bass ackwards! There is LOWER pressure outside the aircraft and higher pressure INSIDE the aircraft. The higher pressure INSIDE the aircraft is what causes EXPLOSIVE DECOMPRESSION if an aircraft seal is breached. Get your Physics straight!!

      4. Billy B. says:

        @Big Julie: Actually, his physics are correct. He assumes a 4.0psi outside pressure and a 10.4psi inside the cabin.

      5. morecoffeplease says:

        Can something EXplode and DEcompress at the same time?

      6. Daniel Turissini says:

        Julie, the point is that the door is being pushed closed by the difference in pressure, and that it needs to be pulled open against all of that pressure. Exclamation points and ALL CAPS shouting and punning aside, you’re being rather dense.

      7. jeff says:

        Your sir, are a complete idiot. nice made up math equasions that don’t mean anything. You would make a great politician…

      8. Daniel Turissini says:

        Good grief where do you people come from. Let me try to break it down Barny style. At high altitude, there is more air pressure INSIDE the aircraft than OUTSIDE the aircraft. This means that air wants to escape rather than come in. The DOOR to the aircraft opens INWARD. Therefore, anyone trying to PULL open the DOOR has to work against all of that air pressure that is pushing OUTWARD.

        Comprende?

      9. Jeff Dempsey says:

        It was the over wing door (got that from the 3rd paragraph), which is usually around 2’x4′, so the surface area is about 8 ft^2, so the math goes roughly 7373 pounds pushing it out, which would have to be pulled in to remove the door.

        For pics, see http://cabincrewsafety.com/info/news/2010/5/Airbus-A320-Door-&-over-wing-door-training-mock-ups-for-sale.html if it allows the link.

        SirGareth, your logic is spot on, just had the wrong door.

    6. Kelly says:

      So if plane doors can’t be opened mid flight, how did D.B. Cooper open the door on the 727 and jump out?

      1. Bill says:

        Because he instructed the crew to descend and depressurize the cabin. Look up “Cooper Vane” to see how they “fixed” the 727 rear airstairs from being opened in flight after that.

      2. DBCooper says:

        History says that he had the pilot fly at 10000 feet

      3. Kelly says:

        So it is possible at a certain altitude (theoretically). Something he and the other passengers wouldn’t know as a general rule. Now that I know it isn’t really possible, I would still be terrified seeing someone messing with the door of the aircraft!

      4. Billy B. says:

        727’s had a rear stairwell that could be lowered. Back when DB Cooper pulled his stunt, he asked the crew to fly low allowing him to lower the stairs without much difference in air pressure. Since his jump and some copy cat attempts, a small vane (moved by wind flow) was added to keep the stairs from being once the aircraft was underway.

      5. David Bate says:

        different kind of door check the details

    7. J3 says:

      Actually, it depends on the make of aircraft. Read the NTSB report regarding the flight attendant killed at MIA. The aircraft had problems with the outflow valve and returned to Miami. The cabin still had pressure upon landing and the flight attendant opened L1 prematurely. I bet the bad guys already know this.

    8. zombierocket says:

      But he TRIED. And THAT is the problem bozos.

    9. zombierocket says:

      For all the junior engineers here in this forum… as expected, you have lost sight of the issue. The individual TRIED to open the door. THAT is the problem. Geeez I get so tired of childish bickering about who is right or wrong concerning trivial technicalities… the fact is, HE TRIED to open it. That’s the problem.

  3. Hank Warren says:

    Useless TSA, yet another violation of our rights. Add it to the list of gov’t violations of our rights:
    They violate the 1st Amendment by placing protesters in cages, banning books like “America Deceived II” and censoring the internet.
    They violate the 2nd Amendment by confiscating guns.
    They violate the 4th and 5th Amendment by molesting airline passengers.
    They violate the entire Constitution by starting undeclared wars for foreign countries.
    Impeach Obama, vote for Ron Paul.
    (Last link of Banned Book):
    http://www.amazon.com/America-Deceived-II-Possession-interrogation/dp/1450257437

  4. walter12 says:

    That is one sick 60 year old FH. He needs to be placed in sme sort of padded cell for a few months.

    1. Jeff Dempsey says:

      Or released on his own recognizance, like he was… promising not to fly unless this is resolved.

      Good grief…

  5. Dan Shays says:

    Did he have a parachute with him?

  6. JRHowosso says:

    But, But a bullet thru a window and everyone gets sucked out, saw it on TV once must be true……………

    1. john says:

      Even if the entire window is blown out, the opening is too small for a human being to be ejected from the plane.

      Still, I wouldn’t want to be on a plane and lose a window. It wouldn’t be nice.

      1. Tom Trabert says:

        I am a pilot. At altitude, a human would be sucked out of a 3-4 inch opening. It would not be elegant, but trust me you would be sucked out if you were sitting next to it. After the rapid depressurization of the plane, it would be harder for large items (passengers?) to be sucked out of even a small hole.

      2. Billy B. says:

        @John: Tell that to the divers killed in the Byford Dolphin accident. Their bodies were instantaneously ripped (literally) through a small hatch opening upon explosive decompression. In an aircraft scenario, a full-size human would be pushed through the window opening the same way a child pushes playdoh through the spaghetti maker.

      3. David Bate says:

        Ever see a pressure cooker blow it’s contents thru a 1/6 hole all over the ceiling.
        I have.
        I imagine it’s a bit of the same.

    2. Rickvid in Seattle says:

      Alas, poor Auric, we knew him well….

    3. Dennis Dormady says:

      I’d make sure that whoever took out the window would find their backside as the plug on that leak….

      After I put on my oxygen mask, of course, per the instructions I heard at the beginning of the flight😉

  7. Jimbo Limbo says:

    They released him. And we have people serving time for a bag of weed? People wonder what’s wrong with America? THIS is what’s wrong. “Promise you won’t do this again, OK?” Duh.

    1. phil says:

      Yep. They released him. At the very least, this man should NEVER be allowed on public transportation again. The airlines should simply put this man on a no-fly list. Nooooo. That may violate his civil rights! 60 years old..or not…this man would have received a well deserved attitude adjustment if he had been a seat mate.

      1. Johnakos says:

        so. You have the right to worship anawyy you wish. And I have to right to ask you to realize that the religion you worship may not be the right one. If you dont wish to change, tell me and I wont bring it up again unless you are dear to me and I really would like to see you in heaven after we die. The problem is that too many religions promise that you will get to heaven if you do things their way but have nothing to back that up. Mine at least lays down ways to do it. Ignoring the sins of others if they will ignore your sins isnt a way that ANY religion promises, to my knowledge.

    2. brian says:

      Congrats! You just let everyone know you are a pot smoking loser. NOBODY serves time for a bag of weed. You are just angry you can’t smoke it legally. Let me guess, you are voting for Ron Paul?

      1. Fred says:

        Herp derp. Pot is bad, mm’kay?

        Now excuse me while I have a shot and a beer.

  8. Bruce McClarron says:

    You cannot physically open the the emergency exit door at that altitude – as there are built-in safety features!!!

  9. Baachaagaloop says:

    The airline industry should sell even more booze on the flights or have a sad hour -I mean happy hour…..maybe he would have decided to stay on the flight instead of exit stage right. putting the whole plane and passengers in danger.

  10. Poe Dee says:

    Either he lost everything he owened and was depressed or what happened in Vegas wasn’t staying in Vegas and he didn’t want to go home.

    1. John Candy says:

      “You must be Owen?” I’m to take you ta’ Wichita? People train runs thru Stubbville.

  11. Oldnavy says:

    I’m just shocked it wasn’t a guy whose name you couldn’t pronounce without sounding like you are coughing and gagging. Accchhhmed Somethingorother.

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  12. James Benoit says:

    Allauh Akbar? No? Good, just a average American azzhat/nut.

  13. Eric Window says:

    I AM AN AIRCREW MEMBER. THE EXITS,DOOR AND WINDOW ARE MADEBTO OPEN INWARD AND CANNOT BE OPENED OUTWARD. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO OPEN THEM WHILE THE PLANE IS PRESSURIZED. THEY COULD BE OPENED IF THERE WAS A RAPID DEPRESSURIZATION OR THE PILOT DEPRESSURIZED THE AIRCRAFT. I HAVE DONE THE LATER TO EVACUATE SMOKE OUT OF AN AIRCRAFT BUT I WAS WEARING ABSAFETY HARNESS.

    1. Billy B. says:

      @Eric: 1) Your caps lock button is broken. 2) Many modern Boeing aircraft have the exit doors open outward and up.

      1. Rev. Richard says:

        Billy they open inward first then out, how do I know this? Former 737 and air bus pilot, here!

    2. Mark says:

      @Eric Window you are correct. South African Airways Flight 295 lowered its altitude and depressurized so that some of the crew could open a side door to help exhaust smoke from a cargo fire. The flight was unfortunately doomed – poor souls – but anyone can read more about it on Wikipedia.

    3. Ikebukuro says:

      all the right words, touched your arm at the right times, got you aalfwhy home (the bar near his place, at closing) and then to his place. He got you to leave (ostensibly after sex wrestling ? C’mon, Kate, just tell us you did him), and got you to go away for good after insisting you see his FB page.This is step by step from one of those How to Get Women websites, right? And the most important step, for those kind of guys, is getting you to leave, after the boinking.Maybe its penance for being so mean to those other loser guys .Cheers!

  14. reno says:

    Ya , it sucked that Alien out the window in Alien 4 movie….guts and all….lol

  15. Baachaagaloop says:

    Thanks Eric thats great to know…..but there have been so many people just loosing it at a great cost to the public at large and not to mention the crew.

  16. YouDude60 says:

    His punishment ought to be taking him up in a depressurized, empty plane and allowing him to fulfill his wish.

  17. Rowdy Boots says:

    AND WHERE EXACTLY IS THE ‘NO FLY’ LIST?

    IF A JUDGE ASKED HIM NOT TO FLY, WHY WAS IT NOT ENFORCED?

    1. jay kellogg says:

      ummm…he told him not to fly AFTER this incident.

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  18. keith says:

    The passengers need to step this up a bit. This is getting a bit old. Start voting these folks off the planet.

    If you have emotional or mental health issues, perhaps you should pick an alternative means of travel where you are constantly supervised by someone who cares about your issues.

    For the rest of you, we can’t have toenail clippers since they are so very dangerous, but we can have shoelaces. If they ban shoelaces, one guy can sit on the offender while someone else stomps on the back of their neck. Only takes a second.

    I would guess you would see less of these incidents in no time.

    1. vehoae says:

      Good idea, Keith. But I’m wondering why the TSA agents who felt up the crazy passenger’s crotch allowed him to board the jet? I mean, aren’t the TSA agents supposed to be able to detect everything by either feeling or looking at passengers’ genitals? Quite frankly, I expect the passengers who restrained the man to be sued by the man they restrained, by the airline, and by bHo’s Justice Department. And considering the jurists appointed to the bench by bHo, the prospects for the restrained passenger will probably mount up into the millions. Isn’t “social justice” wonderful? Lord, come quickly.

  19. Smirkster says:

    Was he wearing an Obama shirt?

    1. Chicago Nick says:

      Probably another deadbeat freeloading member of Obama’s family tree that has more branches than the freaking Bank of America….

  20. Chicago Nick says:

    I tell you one thing, they should just let these terrorists on the flights so we passengers can kick the living snot outta their Islamic madman azzzes, as Americans aren’t taking any guff in the air anymore which is good to see and leaves the cowardly terrorists to look for easier targets.

    THAT (meaning WE irate passengers) scares them 100 times more than the TSA, I’ll tell you that much.

    1. Jason says:

      The same tough American guys who are willing to have their balls cupped by some fat dude with a moustache before they board those same flights?

      1. europeanmanpurse says:

        @ Jason
        You are actually supposed to have the intentions to fly when you get your balls cupped by another man, not just walking around the airport with no ticket fullfilling your secret dreams…..bloody eurotrash…

    2. Tony says:

      Garber is an Islamic name?

  21. Mike says:

    Why doesn’t this article say anything about the fact that it’s impossible to open aircraft cabin doors at altitude due to the pressure differential? Whoever wrote this article should be fired and replaced with someone who cares.

  22. jay kellog says:

    “But you don’t understand… There’s a MAN on the wing! A man on the wing!!”

    1. ch says:

      LOL …. but it just looked like a man!

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  23. Buck O'Fama says:

    The very attempt would guarantee a big ass beating. Sure it may be impossible to open the door but after a profoundly intense beating by all on board, I’m sure it will be quite impossible for the old fool to EVER consider this as an option again.

  24. John Greco says:

    Huh. I would think that opening an emergency exit on a pressurized airplane would be nearly impossible. (8-9 psi x the number of square inches of the door = frickin heavy!) That said, one would hope that there’s some kind of lock in place to prevent this.

    I feel like I hear about some nut trying to do this more often than I care to.

    1. ilovechuck says:

      Chuck Norris could rip that door off with one pinky finger

  25. Skep41 says:

    Another drunk. Why they allow alcohol on airplanes is beyond me.

    1. sgtpeppers05 says:

      probably because sometimes people get stuck sitting next to you

  26. Polyanna LaTigra says:

    But just a couple weeks ago a Saudi tried to open the cabin door and no charges were brought against him…yet…
    http://www.idsnews.com/news/story.aspx?id=83306

    Update me if anyone has heard different…

  27. Joe Walsh says:

    “Tonight is the measure of whether the country begins, in the state of Wisconsin, a national drive to push back or whether we have more to go to build a movement of resistance. But resist we much… We must and we will much… about … that … be committed.”

    Maybe he saw Rev. Al’s comment on TV and decided to test the resistance of the airplane door. Heck fire, you guys have to agree it’s a possibility….

  28. sprdthewrd says:

    Obama is sucking the life out of this country. Anyone BUT Obama !!! 2012

    Quit arguing amongst ourselves !!!

    1. Tony says:

      Sorry, are you in the right comment thread? This one’s about a crazy dude trying to open a plane door, not … anything to do with politics.

      Oy vey.

      1. zombierocket says:

        Maybe the crazy guy was just re-enacting the state of the nation.

  29. normanwest says:

    released with NO BAIL for trying to open a door on a plane that would have killed anyone that was not buckled in their seat……..out the door…….

  30. JohnP says:

    Can’t open an aircraft’s door in flight? Impossible you say? Tell that to the guy who jumped out of a King Air 200 turboprop at 23,000 feet over Nunavut, Canada in April 2009.

  31. jay says:

    In every case these people are on psychotropic drugs and the drug industry doesn’t want us to know the side effects. There will be a quiet plea bargain. Every psycho is on anti depressants or in withdrawal.

  32. George says:

    I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that the man was suffering from dimentia.

  33. Jack says:

    Wow, are we Americans generally as stupid as they seem to be in this thread? It’s no wonder they bought the entire 911 story hook, line, & sinker. If the average Joe can’t figure out the mechanics and physics of a pressurized cabin door, I guess they will never understand how most of what we were made to believe about the twin towers and especially bldg. 7 is impossible. What the heck are they teaching in schools. They have 1200+ hours per year to teach and kids come out barely able to read & write and have no proficiency in critical thinking or deductive reasoning. We are doomed.

  34. AlexxelA says:

    Lets make special doors for people who want to get off of flights at 30,000 feet. It’s simple and we can even strap on a parachute. If its a terrorist we can also send them out of the plane. Then we can just go to our destination with out being Disturbed by these nut jobs!

  35. walnut says:

    Dollars to donuts he’s got 5 years till social security,out of work, and needs three hots and a cot till uncle sam takes over. A victimless crime with no chance of coming to fruition…perfect for a 5 year stint.

  36. Snake says:

    Hey guys, lighten up. He wanted to do a HALO and had reached exit altitude. He watched the green light flash on but forgot to check his 782 gear and parachute. Probably had one too many sodas when he was a kid and forgot things such as that.
    To calm the other passengers simply drive a knife up his ass and into the deck. Which him pinned, everyone can go back to what they were doing before.

    Semper Fidelis

    Snake

    1. zombierocket says:

      There ya go…! Simple.

  37. Roger L Todd says:

    While it is true that the doors cannot be opened at altitude, what people generally don’t know is that they also can’t open them on the ground either once the caabin is pressurized. But even this won’t stop stupid people from doing stupid things.

    1. zombierocket says:

      Very many people do very many stupid things all the time. And it seems to be getting worse.

  38. eor says:

    I’m making bets he left Las Vegas drunk and was looking for the restroom.

  39. stoptouchingthatmabel says:

    I think it is time for the TSA to consider who would be sitting in the seat next to an emergency exit because I have read stories like this three times and one day one of these wingnuts is going to cause a disaster.

    1. zombierocket says:

      Hate to be the bearer of bad news but numerous reports put 1 in 4 Americans in the category of “nuts”.

  40. Joe says:

    The guy may be claustrophobic and having a episode. I’m claustrophobic and sometimes jets freak me out pretty badly. Don’t have it bad enough to do something like that but definately could have a serious panic attack. If you’ve never had one, they’re terrible! Horrible. You feel out of control of yourself and instinct totally takes over. Fight or flight becomes FLIGHT,RUN,GET OUT NOW!! Airlines need to keep meds onboard that can help when someone is having a episode. My ultimate fear is being stuck on a small jet for hours on a tarmac unable to get off the thing. All bets are off in that situation as to what happens. It totally sucks when fear just takes over and you can’t control yourself.

    1. stayoffplanes says:

      Joe,
      I have a simple 3 step plan that is perfect for you. It’s free and works everytime, you will sleep like a baby on any flight.

      1) Find large, angry looking man anywhere in the cabin
      2) Approach and postion face at arms length away from said person
      3) Stick chin out and say the worst thing you can think about his mother

  41. Batman says:

    It doesn’t matter which way the door opens & whether or not he could have opened the door. Once again passengers do what the TSA and Homeland in-Security fails to do. The fact is the government failed to prevent this situation and we need to remove these two wasteful departments. Oh, and get rid of the drug gang arming BATF as well.

  42. ma67 says:

    Peter Griffin opened that door on an episode of family guy…..

  43. April Mastly says:

    WHY WASN’T THE SAUDI WHO TRIED THE SAME THING A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO CHARGED?

    They are the actual terrorists. Our government prefers citizens of OTHER countries over OUR OWN.

    Obama, Napolitano, and Holder are trash.

    1. zombierocket says:

      You only get charged if you are a law abiding American citizen. Wake up.

  44. Karl Magnus says:

    This is ridiculous.
    The man should be held pending, at a minimum, a psych eval.
    I’ll do it. I won’t even charge the TSA for doing their job for them – you know, like the passengers on the flight did.

    Several times over the years I’ve been asked as I boarded an airliner if I would like to sit AT an exit door (I’m 6’4″ and 252 lbs. in me bare feet). Of course I’ve said “hell yes!” And it wasn’t for my own comfort – which was a perk of course.
    Per Federal policy, the man, if had a passport, he would have been forced to surrender it to the Federal Magistrate (actually to the Court Clerk to be locked in a safe in the Federal bldg.)

    This guy has a problem. He’s a wee bit old to be schizophrenic and not be flagged by TSA. Something else was on this guy’s agenda. Maybe the wife left him, maybe his kids hate him, maybe he lost his job … . There are ways to demonstrate one’s anomie without resorting to grandiose behavior.
    ~(Ä)~

  45. zombierocket says:

    The pilots here are right… the emergency doors have to open inward first. That cannot be done when the aircraft is pressurized (at altitude). A bullet or structural failure is something different. But the issue here is not whether the doors can open or not. You’ve lost sight of the obvious… the issue is that the man TRIED to open the doors. Period. And for that, he’s clearly not stable or in his right mind or suicidal or whatever.

  46. Oren says:

    He obviously didn’t know what he couldn’t do but that didn’t stop him from trying. Where do people like this come from? TSA obviously didn’t pat him enough times so he felt wanted. Charge him with attempted murder, period and never let him fly again.

  47. JiminGA says:

    He probably just wanted to step outside for a cigarette.

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